Post by kwombles on Jun 29, 2009 9:25:59 GMT -5
Another request to the scientists among us.
Kathy Blanco over at AoA has come out as against vaccines completely, brought up the holocaust thing, blamed lyme disease for autism and is now on to SV-40 for autism and everything else wrong in her family.
I could use some help countering this.
www.ccid.org/ is the site she's talking about; can anyone offer an opinion on this site? And for that matter SV-40 or any of the other let's call it information that Kathy writes? I'll admit that I have devoted several posts to her nonsense over the last month. I'd like to be able to constructively deconstruct her allegations, show why they are false, give any props if any of her info is correct (giving the benefit of the doubt).
Please help!
Here's the thread of posts from AoA:
www.ageofautism.com/2009/06/autism-cancer-and-aids.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e20115714ef5c2970b#comment-6a00d8357f3f2969e20115714ef5c2970b
"I will tell you why I tested my entire family. When I read a grandmother had myeloma and the stealth virus (on the website), and had GRANDCHIDLREN with autism, I fell off my chair. Are they talking to me? I then tested for this virus with two labs, tested my kids, my mom, my father, my brothers and sisters, and my two NT children. All with cancers, autism, or some funky immune neurological issues were strong positive (and I didn't tell them who was who), and those with just funky stuff like OCD, symptoms of MS (which I later found I had), etc, were moderate positive.
Also MYCOPLASMA and autism are related, with the lyme. No cell walled bacteria can be found OFTEN in kids with autism. One knows also that six percent of the childhood vaccines THAT WERE TESTED contained mycoplasma. My children also tested positive for Mycoplasma F, through MDL labs, and this is also seen in GWS.
So, I don't understand your disdain for my reach and research on WHY our family has so many neurological things going on?
You accusations are baseless..."
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 29, 2009 at 12:37 AM
"We were tested by DR John Martin of CCID (www.ccid.org).
also you can get tested by Dr Vodjani at his lab.
What gives?"
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 27, 2009 at 11:23 AM
My post:
From the CDC: "Can I obtain a test to see if I am infected with SV40?
Blood tests can identify if a person has antibodies to SV40, but no test for SV40 is commercially available at this time. Research laboratories are currently refining the techniques used to detect SV40. PCR (polymerase chain reaction) assays are currently in use to detect SV40 DNA segments. Because of inconsistent results between laboratories, there is a need to develop a standard PCR assay (Levine et al., 1998)."
"Is receiving contaminated vaccine the only way to become infected with SV40?
Receiving contaminated vaccine is not the only way to become infected with SV40. Data suggest that SV40 has infected a small percentage of the human population independently of the polio vaccine. A study of German medical students found that 12% had SV40 antibodies in 1952, before the introduction of the polio vaccine (Geissler et al., 1985). Moreover, SV40 has been identified in people born in the 1980s and 1990s, well after the elimination of SV40 contamination from polio vaccines. This has led some to consider that the virus may spread from person-to-person. Some laboratory workers may have been exposed to SV40 (Horvath, 1965). It is not known whether people who live in countries with wild rhesus monkeys also could be exposed to SV40. Exactly how SV40 is transmitted among humans and how common it is among people in the U.S. population are unknown."
www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/archive/polio_and_cancer.htm#13
Why would everyone is Kathy's family have been tested for this? Plus, I can find no literature to confirm the allegations being made by Kathy. And in lighr of previous assertions regarding Lyme disease and autism made by Kathy, this looks like another wild goose chase.
Posted by: seriouslykiddingme | June 24, 2009 at 08:30 AM
Back to her:
"University of Rochester Medical Center shows that some parents pass on the human herpes virus 6 (HHV-6) to their children because it is integrated into their chromosomes. This is the first time a virus has been shown to become part of the human DNA and then get passed to subsequent generations. Can also this virus? Yeppers on that one..."
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 24, 2009 at 03:11 AM
"We all tested positive for SV=-40 in my family and my growing up family. In that, contains illnesses such as Autism, Seizures, various autoimmune disorders, myeloma, mitochonrial disorders....all copable to this virus. But be careful! We have found out LYME DISEASE can mimic this virus. So, what if that is also in the equation> Especially because it can be STD' to your spouse, go to the placenta, and become a congenital infection> So, lyme, essentially is in all fifty states, in all parts of the world? Lyme and SV-40 imho, are the culprits with vaccines as triggers."
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 24, 2009 at 02:49 AM
"July 1899 Charles Rauta, Professor of Hygiene and Material Medical in the University of Perguia says: "Vaccination is a monstrosity, a misbegotten offspring of error and ignorance; it should have no place in either hygiene or medicine....Believe not in vaccination, it is a world wide delusion, an unscientific practice, a fatal superstition with consequences measured today by tears and sorrow without end."
That sums it up, don't you think?"
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 24, 2009 at 02:44 AM
www.ccid.org/
Kathy Blanco over at AoA has come out as against vaccines completely, brought up the holocaust thing, blamed lyme disease for autism and is now on to SV-40 for autism and everything else wrong in her family.
I could use some help countering this.
www.ccid.org/ is the site she's talking about; can anyone offer an opinion on this site? And for that matter SV-40 or any of the other let's call it information that Kathy writes? I'll admit that I have devoted several posts to her nonsense over the last month. I'd like to be able to constructively deconstruct her allegations, show why they are false, give any props if any of her info is correct (giving the benefit of the doubt).
Please help!
Here's the thread of posts from AoA:
www.ageofautism.com/2009/06/autism-cancer-and-aids.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e20115714ef5c2970b#comment-6a00d8357f3f2969e20115714ef5c2970b
"I will tell you why I tested my entire family. When I read a grandmother had myeloma and the stealth virus (on the website), and had GRANDCHIDLREN with autism, I fell off my chair. Are they talking to me? I then tested for this virus with two labs, tested my kids, my mom, my father, my brothers and sisters, and my two NT children. All with cancers, autism, or some funky immune neurological issues were strong positive (and I didn't tell them who was who), and those with just funky stuff like OCD, symptoms of MS (which I later found I had), etc, were moderate positive.
Also MYCOPLASMA and autism are related, with the lyme. No cell walled bacteria can be found OFTEN in kids with autism. One knows also that six percent of the childhood vaccines THAT WERE TESTED contained mycoplasma. My children also tested positive for Mycoplasma F, through MDL labs, and this is also seen in GWS.
So, I don't understand your disdain for my reach and research on WHY our family has so many neurological things going on?
You accusations are baseless..."
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 29, 2009 at 12:37 AM
"We were tested by DR John Martin of CCID (www.ccid.org).
also you can get tested by Dr Vodjani at his lab.
What gives?"
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 27, 2009 at 11:23 AM
My post:
From the CDC: "Can I obtain a test to see if I am infected with SV40?
Blood tests can identify if a person has antibodies to SV40, but no test for SV40 is commercially available at this time. Research laboratories are currently refining the techniques used to detect SV40. PCR (polymerase chain reaction) assays are currently in use to detect SV40 DNA segments. Because of inconsistent results between laboratories, there is a need to develop a standard PCR assay (Levine et al., 1998)."
"Is receiving contaminated vaccine the only way to become infected with SV40?
Receiving contaminated vaccine is not the only way to become infected with SV40. Data suggest that SV40 has infected a small percentage of the human population independently of the polio vaccine. A study of German medical students found that 12% had SV40 antibodies in 1952, before the introduction of the polio vaccine (Geissler et al., 1985). Moreover, SV40 has been identified in people born in the 1980s and 1990s, well after the elimination of SV40 contamination from polio vaccines. This has led some to consider that the virus may spread from person-to-person. Some laboratory workers may have been exposed to SV40 (Horvath, 1965). It is not known whether people who live in countries with wild rhesus monkeys also could be exposed to SV40. Exactly how SV40 is transmitted among humans and how common it is among people in the U.S. population are unknown."
www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/archive/polio_and_cancer.htm#13
Why would everyone is Kathy's family have been tested for this? Plus, I can find no literature to confirm the allegations being made by Kathy. And in lighr of previous assertions regarding Lyme disease and autism made by Kathy, this looks like another wild goose chase.
Posted by: seriouslykiddingme | June 24, 2009 at 08:30 AM
Back to her:
"University of Rochester Medical Center shows that some parents pass on the human herpes virus 6 (HHV-6) to their children because it is integrated into their chromosomes. This is the first time a virus has been shown to become part of the human DNA and then get passed to subsequent generations. Can also this virus? Yeppers on that one..."
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 24, 2009 at 03:11 AM
"We all tested positive for SV=-40 in my family and my growing up family. In that, contains illnesses such as Autism, Seizures, various autoimmune disorders, myeloma, mitochonrial disorders....all copable to this virus. But be careful! We have found out LYME DISEASE can mimic this virus. So, what if that is also in the equation> Especially because it can be STD' to your spouse, go to the placenta, and become a congenital infection> So, lyme, essentially is in all fifty states, in all parts of the world? Lyme and SV-40 imho, are the culprits with vaccines as triggers."
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 24, 2009 at 02:49 AM
"July 1899 Charles Rauta, Professor of Hygiene and Material Medical in the University of Perguia says: "Vaccination is a monstrosity, a misbegotten offspring of error and ignorance; it should have no place in either hygiene or medicine....Believe not in vaccination, it is a world wide delusion, an unscientific practice, a fatal superstition with consequences measured today by tears and sorrow without end."
That sums it up, don't you think?"
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | June 24, 2009 at 02:44 AM
www.ccid.org/
